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I am getting a ERR Maildrop lock is busy error everytime I check my mail - any
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Subject: Winsock settings

Newsgroups: alt.winsock
Subject: Winsock settings

Hi you all,

I just managed to set up a slip connection by phone. And ofcourse when
something finally works you want to optimize it.
The setup screen has all these parameters like MTU,TCP(RWin,MSS), online
statusdetection (DCD/DSR).
I have no idea what they all mean, could somebody enlighten me wich settings
are the best to use?

TIA

Wim Verveen


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From: [e-mail] (Delta)
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Subject: Re: Possibly a GREAT Winsock Telnet?!?!?!

Doug Jones ([e-mail]) wrote:
: In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Michael A. Grassi) writes:
: >I don't know if this is a "kosher" thing to do, but I downloaded the VxD beta
: >from ftp.microsoft.com, and I didn't install it, but I just took the
: >telnet.exe and ftp.exe files out, and I use them with Trumpet Winsock...The
: >telnet is real good, but I want to know if I am doing something "wrong,"
: >hopefully not illegal....
: >Mike
: >[e-mail]

: Nope, not if understand the license agreement which you also downloaded.
: I'd say you just became a "registered" beta tester for their telnet and ftp
: apps. In my opinion, the readme and license texts don't imply any sort of
: all or nothing arrangement. However, they do obligate you to give them
: feedback about any problems or bugs you find - what a concept! The only
: price you pay is that you have to promise to complain - most of us should
: love that!!

I couldn't find this on ftp.microsoft.com, anywhere.  Did they delete it,
and if they didn't, could someone post/mail me the path to get to it?
Thanks in advance!

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From [e-mail] Mon May  2 09:32:33 1994
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From: [e-mail] (Jeff Kohl)
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Subject: Re: Opinion please: best Win SLIP setup

In article <2poiet$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Roger Theriault) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Roger Theriault)
>Subject: Re: Opinion please: best Win SLIP setup
>Date: 28 Apr 1994 14:50:05 GMT

>>In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Cass Tyson) writes:
>>>Hi, all!
>>>I'm putting my Dad's 486 on the net in the next few days. Having just set
>>>him up with a SLIP account and a 14,4 modem, I'd like to set it up with the
>>>best set of TCP tools available under Windoze. Imagine you were starting
>>>from scratch:

>If you want to spend money, you'll get your $ worth from Chameleon, a package from
>NetManage. It comes with all the mini-apps you'll need except Mosaic and IRC.
>It is well put together, the SLIP interface is easy to set up, and the new
>version 4 software even includes a gopher client.

>Call NetManage at [phone]

>Roger

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There is a book for about $ that bundles a dialup (slip/ppp) version of the
netmanage chameleon stack with it.  It's probably the cheapest commercial way
to go.  You can add freeware and shareware winsock apps on top of the stack.
Don't have tha name of the book off-hand.  Maybe someone else can help.

Jeff
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Subject: Re: Another winsock idea

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Tom Grelinger) writes:
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>Subject: Another winsock idea
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>From: [e-mail] (Tom Grelinger)
>Date: Mon, 2 May 1994 00:46:42 -0500
>Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing
>Keywords: Offline newsreader
>Nntp-Posting-Host: kuts2p16.cc.ukans.edu
>X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev B]
>Lines: 21


>I have been trying to find this "perfect" program for several months since I
>started using winsock.  A combination NNTP newsreader that is offline.  To me,
>it sounds a simple enough.  Dial in, fire up the newsreader and post and
>followup any messages, and receive any new ones.  Disconnect and exit trumpet
>winsock.  Start a DIFFERENT program (most winsock programs want trumpet
>winsock loaded, and a different program should work better), read any news,
>write replies, store them until the next time one is logged in.

>I am a CS major but have never worked in anything related to communications
>programming or Windows programming, but if someone wants to take a stab at it,
>I would be happy to test the program for them.

>Tom.
That kinda 'grab and go' system works great for email where you know that
everything is intended for you. In newsgroups, I suspect you don't actually
download most articles. Having them automatically DL everything you subscribe
to would take more modem time than scanning through them in the normal
fashion. You'd eat lots of bandwidth DLing everything in alt.binary.*
groups whether you wanted them or not.

For such a scheme to work, you'd need logic to control which articles
get downloaded, either based on size or content. Either way, you'd risk
missing something interesting but unexpected.

Clients COULD be smarter about downloading the next group's titles while you
look at another group's articles and letting you put big downloads in the
background. This would cut down on user interaction time and overall modem
time. In a cooperative network, clients need to keep in mind overall network
bandwidth in addition to 'user's-butt-in-seat' time.

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From: [e-mail] (Esh, Andrew)
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Subject: Re: who "owns" winsock?
Date: Mon, 02 May 94 08:47

>Not true. Winsock was defined by a group of individuals from various
>companies
>usually with those companies 'blessing'. The spec is derived from
>copyrighted
>material from Berkeley, Various vendors have contributed tools. I
believe >the spec is PD. Microdyne.com is the authoritive source for
info.

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>Kevin Hintergardt
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I have found microdyne.com to be unreachable for a few months now. I
contacted a few folks from the Contributors page of the Winsock spec, and
found that Mark Towfiq no longer works for Microdyne. I also called
Microdyne and reached various people who either did not know what I was
talking about, or gave me the idea that Mark, and/or the site he worked
at, are no longer park of the company.

The new site for Winsock is sunsite.unc.edu. I am told Mark Towfiq now
works for Sun.